can't find the print server

[rafe]

only incidentally an OS/2 question: over the weekend after I blew up
the settings for my router while trying to set up the wireless (Roku
box coming in), I had to set up my LAN anew, but since I was in a
hurry & couldn't remember how I'd had it set up before, didn't get it
quite right.

I think how I'd used to do it was to set the IP addresses for the
router and the print server and allow DHCP to handle the machines.

on Sunday I needed to reset the router to 192.168.1.2 (I think it
defaulted to 192.168.1.1 which conflicted with the DSL modem). after
that, everything on the LAN worked ok EXCEPT I lost access to the
print server from the XP box. I can still happily print from this OS/
2 box using the "net use" command

net use lpt4 \\PS-00XXXX\PS-00XXXXX-P1

but I can't determine what IP address has been assigned to the
printer. I guess I could simply shut everything down and start all
over again and try to find just the print server IP address from the
beginning, but apart from being time-consuming, that allows more room
for me to screw things up again. is there some kind of utility
that'll let me find the IP address of the printer so I can print from
'doze again?

-rafe

[jch]

Post by rafe
but I can't determine what IP address has been assigned to the
printer. I guess I could simply shut everything down and start all
over again and try to find just the print server IP address from the
beginning, but apart from being time-consuming, that allows more room
for me to screw things up again. is there some kind of utility
that'll let me find the IP address of the printer so I can print from
'doze again?

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On most printers there is a menu item that lets you dump the contents of
a test page. The test page usually displays the IP address plus other
useful information such as available character sets, memory, emulation
options and so on. Give that a try. Then there is always a method to
reset the printer to default factory settings. If you don't have the
printer manual, i would go on the iNet, locate one and read it.

[Rich Wonneberger]

If you can not get a test page from the printer, you should be able to
connect to the router with a browser and there should be a list of
'clients' that got a DHCP address from the router.
One of these should be the printer.

Also, if you get the IP address the PC got from the router, the IP
address of the printed should be close to that address.
The last octet is the one that will change, not the 192.168.1.

I set an IP reservation in the router for my printers and servers.
You tell the router the MAC address of the printer, and the IP address
you want it to be. The router will not give that address out to other
devices.
You can then put a small label on the printer with the IP address.
I use 40 to 42 for my printers.

Hope this helps
Rich W.

Post by rafe
I think how I'd used to do it was to set the IP addresses for the
router and the print server and allow DHCP to handle the machines.
on Sunday I needed to reset the router to 192.168.1.2 (I think it
defaulted to 192.168.1.1 which conflicted with the DSL modem). after
that, everything on the LAN worked ok EXCEPT I lost access to the
print server from the XP box. I can still happily print from this OS/
2 box using the "net use" command
net use lpt4 \\PS-00XXXX\PS-00XXXXX-P1
but I can't determine what IP address has been assigned to the
printer. I guess I could simply shut everything down and start all
over again and try to find just the print server IP address from the
beginning, but apart from being time-consuming, that allows more room
for me to screw things up again. is there some kind of utility
that'll let me find the IP address of the printer so I can print from
'doze again?
-rafe

[rafe]

Post by Rich Wonneberger
If you can not get a test page from the printer, you should be able to
connect to the router with a browser and there should be a list of
'clients' that got a DHCP address from the router.
One of these should be the printer.
Also, if you get the IP address the PC got from the router, the IP
address of the printed should be close to that address.
The last octet is the one that will change, not the 192.168.1.
I set an IP reservation in the router for my printers and servers.
You tell the router the MAC address of the printer, and the IP address
you want it to be. The router will not give that address out to other
devices.
You can then put a small label on the printer with the IP address.
I use 40 to 42 for my printers.
Hope this helps
Rich W.

I guess sometimes it shows up in the router's status page, other times
it doesn't. even when it does (like now -- I can see from the MAC
address that it's at 192.168.1.100) if I try to access the server from
any browser on the system, I get a timeout page instead of the
printer's web interface.

nor can the rather primitive but usually effective Windows software it
came with access it on the XP box -- it's unable to discover it.

here's the status page:

odettex 192.168.1.104 XP box
192.168.1.100 (this is the print server)
morelxp 192.168.1.102 (laptop, now offline)
unknown 192.168.1.101 probably the OS/2 box

somehow, I can't remember, I had reserved 192.168.1.103 for the print
server in order to make it easier to set it in XP. I wonder if this
is at the root of my problems? should I delete that port in XP,
reboot, & start again?

-rafe

[Rich Wonneberger]

I would set the reserved address for the printer higher, say 120.
You should be able to create a new port in XP at that address and just
change the queue to use it.

Post by rafe
odettex 192.168.1.104 XP box
192.168.1.100 (this is the print server)
morelxp 192.168.1.102 (laptop, now offline)
unknown 192.168.1.101 probably the OS/2 box
somehow, I can't remember, I had reserved 192.168.1.103 for the print
server in order to make it easier to set it in XP. I wonder if this
is at the root of my problems? should I delete that port in XP,
reboot, & start again?
-rafe

[rafe]

this is driving me a little batty. I can't imagine the print server
is on the fritz -- it prints using the "Net use" command with the MAC
address from OS/2 -- but I simply can't find it with either the
browser or the utility. (is there was similarly useable "net use"
command for XP?)

I also can't seem to locate the DSL modem through a browser window.
when I put everything back together again last weekend, having hw
reset both the modem and the router, I connected the XP box directly
to the modem, bypassing the router.

when I did that, I could browse to the modem, which I think was at
192.168.1.1. then when I connected the router, which defaulted to
192.168.1.1, I reset its IP address to 192.168.1.2. but now with
everything hooked up, I can't seem to get at the modem either.

pinging *.101, *.2, *.104 gets a response

pinging *.1, 103, 102 gets nada....

-rafe

[Steve]

Post by rafe
this is driving me a little batty. I can't imagine the print server
is on the fritz -- it prints using the "Net use" command with the MAC
address from OS/2 -- but I simply can't find it with either the
browser or the utility. (is there was similarly useable "net use"
command for XP?)

The Windows NET commands are similar to the OS/2
commands, though I think NET VIEW is a bit different
in how it works.


Steve N.

[Rich Wonneberger]

Rafe,

Can you change the modem to 192.168.2.1
I wonder if having the same sub-net (192.168.1 in your case) on both is
the problem.

Post by rafe
I also can't seem to locate the DSL modem through a browser window.
when I put everything back together again last weekend, having hw
reset both the modem and the router, I connected the XP box directly
to the modem, bypassing the router.
when I did that, I could browse to the modem, which I think was at
192.168.1.1. then when I connected the router, which defaulted to
192.168.1.1, I reset its IP address to 192.168.1.2. but now with
everything hooked up, I can't seem to get at the modem either.
pinging *.101, *.2, *.104 gets a response
pinging *.1, 103, 102 gets nada....
-rafe

[rafe]

I don't know exactly how but somehow I managed to dredge it from the
mire. this afternoon I returned from a weekend in Indianapolis and
plugged my T22 laptop back into the network. I'd noticed that the XP
side had the printserver utility -- btw, the unit is a LanReady CP-830
which I'd seen recommended here -- so just for the heck of it, I fired
it up. somehow it managed to find the printserver at 192.168.0.103.
clicked on the configure tcp/ip protocol button, chnaged it to
192.168.1.140 as per RIch W., and hit "apply," and now it seems to be
working on all my boxes again.

however: strangely, on the router status page, its MAC address turns
up under 192.168.1.105.

btw (or not) under the TCP/IP protocol page on the browser
configuration window, it asks for a "default gateway" -- I put in
192.168.1.100 as a w.g., is there any chance that's correct?

-rafe

[Jim Moe]

Post by rafe
btw (or not) under the TCP/IP protocol page on the browser
configuration window, it asks for a "default gateway" -- I put in
192.168.1.100 as a w.g., is there any chance that's correct?

Unless you are planning on printing from the Internet, set the default
gateway to 0.0.0.0, i.e., disable it.